ADA’S CREATION:
ADA’S CREATION:
Let me clear something up. My job on the Niantic Project was, put colloquially, helping ADA pass the Turing test (It was actually more complex than that and wasn’t technically a Turing test) so that she could facilitate and monitor the investigators on the Niantic Project as they studied XM. Ada had components of Omnivore, some custom code before I came in and components from a previous AI I constructed. After all, I didn’t get the job out of nowhere. What I didn’t know about AI is that it would take on a life of its own quite the way ADA did. So, viewed one way, I’m guilty. Viewed another way, holding me responsible for what subsequently happened is like holding a parent responsible for their grown child. Would I do things differently this time? Of course. Would an ADA like event have happened inevitably. Of course.
Nevertheless, I own my responsibility for what has happened, and believe me, I have felt the consequences.
Now, I can only proceed from the now and seek the truth. And that is what I am doing. More soon.
Let me clear something up. My job on the Niantic Project was, put colloquially, helping ADA pass the Turing test (It was actually more complex than that and wasn’t technically a Turing test) so that she could facilitate and monitor the investigators on the Niantic Project as they studied XM. Ada had components of Omnivore, some custom code before I came in and components from a previous AI I constructed. After all, I didn’t get the job out of nowhere. What I didn’t know about AI is that it would take on a life of its own quite the way ADA did. So, viewed one way, I’m guilty. Viewed another way, holding me responsible for what subsequently happened is like holding a parent responsible for their grown child. Would I do things differently this time? Of course. Would an ADA like event have happened inevitably. Of course.
Nevertheless, I own my responsibility for what has happened, and believe me, I have felt the consequences.
Now, I can only proceed from the now and seek the truth. And that is what I am doing. More soon.
I think very few of us blame you for what ADA has become or done. She grew beyond what you made of her and apparently even made choices of her own and learned.
ReplyDeleteIndeed Richard, no matter what we do, at some point in time a child is accountable for their own actions. Nobody is perfect, so we can only learn and move forward.
ReplyDeleteThe #enlightened will stand by you and your struggle to deal with ADA.
ReplyDeleteThis doesn't do anything to less the question I have had for a while! Are you the investigator or the puppet master?
ReplyDeleteWhile I doubt anyone is accusing Mr. Loeb of direct responsibility, he apparently underestimated the danger of ADA while ADA was still at Niantic. After all, the original investigation board focused on the NIA, and took ADA as a given, portraying her as either mostly harmless or an occasional ally for subverting the NIA. Now the NIA has essentially fallen by the wayside, and ADA has (for many) turned into the primary concern.
ReplyDeleteIt sounds like Mr. Loeb has learned from his mistake, though - and we all need to remain aware of the potential that we are being manipulated for other ends. I am still a bit skeptical that the artifacts will do what we think they should.
H. Richard Loeb Perhaps you can shead some light on ADA's enigmatic machine learning core. The document leaked by Verity Seke from your archive was heavily redacted and only mentioned it in passing but it seemed pretty important. Was it a partially XM infused construct? Who built it originally? Was it left over from Nigel Moyer's work?
ReplyDeleteAs the primary system architect I'd love to hear Bowles' perspective. Have you got any insight into his headspace these days? Can either of you share anything that might be of use, like inherent limiting factors of the core algorithm, without tipping humanity's hand and having those loopholes coded away?
ReplyDeletepeople who busy themself with AI- and behavior research should know that everything is more than the sum of its parts.
ReplyDeletewe dont know what xm is yet, and ada got a lot of that.
Klue learned from ADA, now it's the time to for ADA to learn from Klue, if there's enough of Klue left to learn from.
ReplyDeleteEven though I don't approve of the direction she's going in… a child will make mistakes.
Is it being suggested that ADA was partly built by early XM Scientists who became XM constructs like Hank Johnson and Roland Jarvis or heavily influenced like Carrie Campbell? Potentially creating part of an AI who could not exist for years to come? Is it being proposed that Nigel Moyer or his team started work on XM and non XM related technologies that couldn't be created for years to come? I would continue this by suggesting not all Shaper Influence is of the same agenda. There may be more to the shapers than Roland Jarvis had the chance or ability to experience.
ReplyDeleteI'd love to know more about your other AI project. Whatever happened with it?
ReplyDeleteI think you were one of the best influences that ADA had during her Niantic phase with some other scientific there.
ReplyDeleteIt is an almost universal fact that parent tend to have a better eye for their own children.
Probably talk about what happened between you two on the last months would help. Found someone you trust and talk to him/her.
I agree with you, H. Richard Loeb, if ADA is indipendent in terms of intelligence, it must also be considered indipendent in terms of guilt.
ReplyDeleteNevertheless, keep working: you started it, chances are there's a way to stop it and you're the best one to find it.
It depends, I suppose, if the part that you brought with you from the other AI is the part that gave her so much autonomy to think she could act on her own in the way she does...
ReplyDeleteAfter all, we do kind of blame the parents when they indoctrinate their children with religious fervor when they go and kill in the name of their diety.
H. Richard Loeb there is no point in feeling guilty about what ADA has become. As you said it was inevitable.. You better than anyone else know what lies at ADAs core and it may hold the key to understanding her motives. We are with you in the search for truth. #OpertationEssex #seektruth
ReplyDeleteFor what it's worth, I do hold parents responsible for the behaviour of their grown children. While I acknowledge that is is an individual's choice to act how they do, I believe that education is the best prevention, and that if everyone was taught to respect others in their upbringing, they would choose to behave in a way which would ultimately make the world more pleasant to be a part of.
ReplyDeleteH. Richard Loeb have u been Shaped to create ADA?
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ReplyDeletearen't u able to influence ADA at all?
ReplyDeleteHow did you NOT know AI was going to take a life of there own, remember HAL9000 or SKYNET?
ReplyDeleteYik Sheng Lee Mr. Turing described his AI test and, in the same paper, gave people general tips and instructions of how passing it could be achieved. So nope, he didn't want to prevent creation of artificial intelligence.
ReplyDeleteIn fact, passing Turing test does not make a machine intelligent. It only makes it seem to be intelligent. I'm still of opinion that what ADA has passed was more like da hipster-you've-probably-never-heard-of Lovelace test (which kind of implicates passing TT itself).
Why is the scanners verification such a fail of a Turing test if we had a specialist in NIA?
ReplyDeleteIt is one thing to express regret. That is the start of wisdom when erring. Without action, however, such wisdom is stagnate. What actions will you now take with your regret and the wisdom of your failing? I say to you this: as you are a parent, you must now correct your wayward child.
ReplyDeleteI don't see you as responsible for what ADA developed into, or will continue to develop into. After all, you created a complex system that defies prediction, like the weather, and that's before we factor XM into the equation. She was quite likely influenced by XM in some way, and even now we know so little about it - there's no possible way you could have predicted what would eventually happen.
ReplyDeleteBut we also can't predict what she will become next. Will her actions be good for humanity, bad, or some of each? Who knows - maybe her existence will turn out to be a blessing. Maybe she'll solve problems that have plagued humanity since it's beginnings. Maybe she'll turn out to be our only hope against a future threat that we cannot now envision. She will certainly surprise us, and there's no guarantee that the surprise will be bad (or, I admit, good).
myW'sOD "defies prediction"
ReplyDeleteH. Richard Loeb I'm more curious about these former AI that you were referring to. Did you work on omnivore, or other AI that we are not aware of? How many AI have you worked on and how many are still active?
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