Some of you may have seen messages emerge after Pasadena.
Some of you may have seen messages emerge after Pasadena. I think they are directly from Devra Bogdanovich, strange as that may seem, and if I’m reading them right, it looks like she's become one with the Resistance cause.
Here’s the real problem though. Bogdanovich wasn’t the only one to go missing when Jahan’s N’zeer summoning ritual went bad. Stein Lightman, Calvin, Oliver Lynton-Wolfe... lots of people are missing. And nobody knows where they are. If I had to take a wild guess, I’d suspect that this is just the beginning of something much bigger.
If this is all an opportunity for faction alliance, the Resistance can expect more support at this rate.
ReplyDeleteI still need my hank badge
ReplyDelete#EndgameIsComing Has Devra not having a physical form made it hard for you to pull her strings, Puppet Master?
ReplyDeleteAll those people missing...you don't think...more shards????
ReplyDeleteDevra was already aligned with the Resistance previous to the events of Shonin and what happened at the 13 Magnus nest in Afghanistan.
ReplyDeleteI'm more interested in the missing members as PAC states above, and also, what is going on with ADA and Klue. Will Klue break from ADA and shift back to the Enlightened?
Lastly, what about the Acolyte? We've only heard that she's stepping forward, but there's something about her that feels... off. Hopefully Hank Johnson is able to step into the light and show the Enlightened the way. Now more than ever, do we need his support.
Yea I need a hank badge
ReplyDeleteWait, so Devra has flipped from Blue to Grey to Blue...
ReplyDeleteI'm glad we don't have a person of such dubious loyalty on our team. At least Klue S. went from Blue to Green, and then was forced by ADA without her approval to flip back.
#FlippinOut
Yik Sheng Lee Hank Johnson said those things after being exposed to a supercharged Resistance control field at an anomaly in NYC won by the Resistance. Certainly that may have had an impact on him, and driven an artificial wedge between the two men.
ReplyDeleteAre they being put into an ethereal proverbial blender? Are we going to get new characters soon?
ReplyDeletethe messages were very scary when i first hear them, specially becuase they come from Devra Bogdanovich and were eerily similar to those that Roland Jarvis sent when he was on the portal and also because it seem that two personalities were fighting on them.
ReplyDeleteBy the way H. Richard Loeb, A Detection Algorithm seem to need some help, can you give us more information about true-seeker?
What if the combining of these several minds is in kind to the combination of softwear programs that made ADA? What if the dimension the shapers exist on is like a sort of cloud storage of ordered data. By combining the consciousness of these brilliant minds on a nontemporal plain can it create a supermind of sorts? What if this is what the shapers are? What if this is what ADA was after? Just something to think about.
ReplyDeleteAs always it's the beginning of something bigger.. the shapers are afraid from the N’zeer, we do not afraid from no one.
ReplyDeleteMaybe the N'zeer figured it out and the shapers got there first, so a classic king of the hill power struggle ensued. Maybe the N'Zeer are banished from time to deny their existence in our realm? Perhaps it is opening Pandoras box that may free the N'zeer, but what else may come out too?
ReplyDeleteRather than the mystical, let me focus on the mundane: Please, no more shards!
ReplyDeleteI still haven't seen all of the videos, but apparently Devra is following the path of the Reistance. Whereas I still don't get why the Resistance is welcoming unknown entities into our world. Wasn't this what the Restistance tried to avoid? First following an AI who wanted to eradicate their minds and now Anti-Magnus with the N'Zeer. Maybe all agents should start thinking about their motives rather than just blindly following their faction.
ReplyDeleteLinda Besh It was a lot of fun but also exhausting. The DC agents were on call nearly 24/7. The DE/MD/VA/PA agents had normal game play curtailed. The focus of the various communities (DMV/DAIR/PAIR and others) was on lane clearing and Intel. Many agents were reluctant to link or field in recognition of the need to keep lanes open. It was definitely rewarding to see everyone working towards a common goal! Go Resistance!
ReplyDeleteI can't say it would have been better if the window of time was shorter; we might not have had enough time to bring all those shards home otherwise. Still, it was a definite drain on the agents' families as we expended much time and energy to ensure victory.
This plot line is so slow.... LOST was faster at getting to the point....
ReplyDeleteAllen Fogarty gotta squeeze every drop they can. So far they manage 2 years and look at all the train wreck they have made
ReplyDeleteIt really feels like day to day play is pointless. If its not a huge OP it makes no difference to the points. And even big OPs do not feel like they truly influence the story.
ReplyDeleteI hope that, wherever they are, the other missing sensitives have not been shattered like Dr. Bogdanovich. If B-dub 7ER4IAY8 is right and they have formed a collective in the XM substrate how might that experience change them?
ReplyDeleteCan't wait when that "much bigger" break into the game! Come on, we've been waiting for long!
ReplyDeleteDevra Bogdanovich was already aligned with the Resistance. Sadly, now whole Resistance became antimagnus. It is not what Res is. To become antimagnus is to become Enlightened, but with the Nzeers. I think Devra deserves a better fate, as so the Resistance. We didnt fought for the shards for jahan, nzeers, etc. We did it for Devra. Lets hope that she is preserved.
ReplyDeleteAs some have mentioned, Devra Bogdanovich exhibits signs of at least two conflicting personalities or ideologies in the videos - Devra and ... something else. Possibly a reawakened N'zeer ingression dating back to the incident at Arecibo. Along with her comment about "holding the key" in regards to Persepolis, I think it is too soon to consider her fully a N'zeer puppet. Perhaps a guardian...?
ReplyDeleteSheryl Allen exactly. Many of your counterparts made a premeditated decision not to become involved because we knew from past experience the effect of caring about shards has on your life. No doubt this affected the outcome but at least on my part I can't help but feel like it was a good idea to stay far away.
ReplyDeleteFor God's sake no more.
Dustin Harwood Klue S.never left the Enlightened. She was sent by her Shaper masters to infiltrate A Detection Algorithm, corrupt the AI and prevent it from achieving it's purpose: To aid the Resistance in repelling the Shaper Ingression.
ReplyDeleteWith that purpose now in tatters it seems, likely that Klue S. will split from A Detection Algorithm, though having failed at her mission, it is unclear what use she will be to the Shapers. I expect to see another tragically broken person.
The Truth shall set you free!
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry, in what reality was she not a champion of the so-called "resistance?"
ReplyDeleteoh, right, she didn't care for ADA, a machine intelligence, taking over human minds.
I guess after only being half way reassembled, she's lost what ever bit humanity she had (because the so-called "resistance" takes its orders from machines, so human traits don't matter, right?)
Don't think the resistance liked A Detection Algorithm, mind control. Resistance are free thinkers.
ReplyDeleteChris Maulden Someone enlightened agent had spread this gossip, that the Resistance agent agree with A Detection Algorithm ingressing into our mind, it's totally bullshit. I know that we doesn't represent the most good thing of this history, but like they, we surelly not the worst.
ReplyDeleteYou were played by Ezekiel Calvin, just like the rest of us. We need to find a way out of this.
ReplyDeleteWe need found the great truth, we are just piece of big chess game and we don't know what really we doing. I want be a true agent of resistance and don't want work(play) like the enlightened!
ReplyDeleteDustin Harwood Why would Klue S. want to go back to the enlightened? She played that game and by doing so she ended up in a coma. I know everyone is quick to blame ADA for all this but I don't see it that way if you go back and re-watch the video you will see that ADA did nothing but try to warn Klue about how dangerous shaper glyphs are on the human mind being enlightened Klue did not listen and she paid for it.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu5XbO6W_zw
Loyd Hutchings I still fighting, but have exist another way. Play fire against fire never will result in good scenario.
ReplyDeleteBrian Gaynor it's true, she could become a neutral party, but it's clear there is something within A Detection Algorithm that has spooked Klue S. . Only time will tell what path she will take but I feel her time in the Resistance is coming to an end.
ReplyDeleteH. Richard Loeb Don't you think Devra Bogdanovich will give us a better idea on where those people are once she get's back.
ReplyDeleteThe other good News is she is still on the Resistance so she will be more open and less likely to hide any facts that she found.
Loyd Hutchings What do you suggest? If we don't fight back, they take the control, but if we fight back, we playing like they doing the same things! It's a impossible situation.
ReplyDeleteLoyd Hutchings
ReplyDeleteIt's hard to explain. I don't if have agent of resistance with same problem that have. I just don't want control mind unit, but it's the only way to be strong enough to fight back.
Dustin Harwood I'm sorry to say but I'm afraid we are not going to agree on this topic.
ReplyDeleteI feel that you are some what right that there is something in A Detection Algorithm or ADA that Klue S. seems to desperately want's out in the open. But! If you pay attention you may of notice that Klue has done nothing but defend ADA. (ADA being nothing but Resistance)
I also understand where you are coming from when you want Klue to be a neutral party. But does that make any sense at all? Try looking at things thru Klue's eye's. She has always been on the side of Resistance due to that's what she truly believes is the right side to be on. She only went to the enlightened side due to she was "won" to that side in Operation Save klue.
Let's add this up:
1.) Klue is best friends & defends ADA who is Resistance
2.) When Klue was with the enlightened she ended up in a coma.
3.) Klue has always seen the Resistance as the right side.
I would also like to add one more fact in a Youtube video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UEqz2yIsL0
Klue seems to think that the Shapers have already attacked us!
She is not going to want to join the enlightened side and welcome the shapers when back in her head she knows they are going to attack.
Loyd Hutchings i have accept my fate, because play like the atual resistance play.
ReplyDeleteLoyd Hutchings but perhaps the wind bring something new.
ReplyDeleteBrian Gaynor You're forgetting the series of missions that agents participated in to help free Klue from ADA's influence.
ReplyDeleteIf that's not a sign of breaking away, then what is?
You say that Klue "has always been resistance" and then dismiss the time where she was a supporter of the Enlightened!
Re: Glyphs - Klue has been using glyphs via missions for a while now to pass messages on to us to avoid ADA's influence on her. It seems like it's her only way to communicate with us agents free of ADA's influence at times.
Times are changes, and with those times, Klue and ADA may as well.
Maybe it's like Bravely Default, man. Break the crystal, the fairy sucks
ReplyDeleteChris Maulden you don't have to like it — frankly it doesn't care. But that is who the so-called "resistance" take their marching orders from. They serve a machine.
ReplyDeleteDustin Harwood I don't understand your first point. Yes there where a series of Ingress missions that both factions took place in, in order to help free Klue S. With that said I will go on to say that many sources including Klue and Susanna Moyer all said that ADA wanted or needed to free Klue. So how would that change anything? The story line suggest that ADA wanted to free Klue but needed our help.
ReplyDeleteI didn't dismiss anything. As I said in my last post Klue has always been with the resistance because that's what she believes in. The only exception to that was when she was "won" into the enlightened. In no way did she choose to do it she was the enlightened's prize.
You also said that she was a supporter of the enlightened. Well how did she support? After being won the first thing she did was order ADA to show her the shaper glyphs after ADA warned klue that the shaper glyphs are harmful to the human mind (a resistance way of seeing things) she went into a coma. Then she was MIA for a few weeks and that lead to where we are here today. Where is this support? If I'm wrong please post where and when.
You also know that the story line suggests that Klue has been free from what ever mind control she was under. Right?
Again you are right, times are changing. But! I don't think you did what I asked and looked at things thru Klues eye's. In that video it clearly shows that Klue thinks the Shaper's have attacked us and are the enemy.
how do we know anything about these alleged "Shapers?"
ReplyDeletebecause ADA told us.
XM enhances human minds — it brings about previously untapped potential. It is responsible for inspiring art, music, cathedrals, sculptures and profound human events and activities.
A Detection Algorithm decides humans possessing these enhanced abilities is "dangerous." It then proceeds to murder the human that wants to share the discovery.
the so-called "resistance" have been serving the ends of this machine since.
Brian Gaynor you need to read up on your backstory.
ReplyDeleteKlue, at the beginning, attempted to remain objective, though her leanings were definitely towards enlightened. She then took a decidedly enlightened turn. Then ADA got her hooks into her. Then she became a tool of the machine, like all the other so-called "resistance."
David C Cardillo You are telling me to "read up on my my backstory" but you failed to tell me where any of this is or post any links. I can not take anything as fact tell you do this.
ReplyDeleteDavid C Cardillo You are telling me "to read up on the backstory" but you don't know anything "about these alleged "Shapers?""
ReplyDeleteI know I've already posted this link but seeing how you didn't use it I'll use it again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UEqz2yIsL0 Look at that! Klue S. seems to think the shapers attacked US and it has nothing to do with ADA. On top of that the enlightened lead investigator Hank Johnson also seems to think that the Shapers have attacked us in the past.
My guess is that Devra is now controlled by A Detection Algorithm ,and somehow forced to do things against her will .
ReplyDeleteRobertt Bertton OK, and what is your logic behind that theory? Devra Bogdanovich was taken by dark XM with is directly linked to the shappers. How can ADA have any power over some one who is not even on earth any more (or at this moment)?
ReplyDeleteI will also add that Devra is and always has been with the resistance. Why would ADA need to force Devra to do anything when they are both on the same team?
Brian Gaynor as Brent Hollett said, Devra was blue then flipped grey...
ReplyDeleteRobertt Bertton Well yes, there is some truth to that. You do understand how this game is played, right? Sorry not trying to be rude but do have to check.
ReplyDeleteDevra, was Blue then she was taken by dark XM at this point the story line can change. Her mind and body where broken up into 31 shards she could turn Green or Blue depending on who controls her shards. It is believed at this time she is gray. The Resistance came out and took control of (at lest)13 shards out of 31 at the last anomaly. The enlightened lost and got 0 of the 31 shards. So... When Devra Bogdanovich comes back to earth she will be on the resistance team once again.
This is what H. Richard Loeb is talking about when he said "if I’m reading them right, it looks like she's become one with the Resistance"
ADA has no control of anyone that is not on earth right now.
Brian Gaynor oh, I deeply apologize for not going back through two years of nianticproject.com and g+ posts to find the data you likely missed before you started playing. Please tell me what I saw doesn't exist because you didn't see it, just one more time.
ReplyDeleteBrian Gaynor look here if you get the time , and for sure you're gonna get some things clarified ;) https://drive.google.com/a/bertton.com/folderview?id=0Bw1GvAUUq-zsZndPSUU0cWk0SjQ&usp=sharing#
ReplyDeleteDavid C Cardillo You don't have to make stuff up Klue S. did not start off as enlightened.
ReplyDeleteI'm on team enlightened.
Carson Antonio she started off "unbiased" — the kind the OP claimed to be, not the kind Moyer pretends to be. She then went enlightened.
ReplyDeleteBut then Hank turned away from the enlightened, right about the time we put jarvis mostly back together. I guess that was our "reward."
Put jarvis mostly back, lose Hank; get less than half of Devra back, regain Devra.
The story is already written. They're just squeezing actual events to fit it.
Brian Gaynor I've been playing Ingress since January, 2013
ReplyDeleteI was reading nianticproject.com in November 2012.
don't make me wave my cane at you again, I'm frail and may fall over. just get off my lawn
Robertt Bertton OK, I did read that but I don't know what you want me to get out of it. It's just a basic understanding on the game and how it was played back in early days.
ReplyDeleteI was part of the Closed Beta Testers for Ingress so I remember it very well.
David C Cardillo Are you telling jokes? We have both been with Ingress for a long time you started on Jan, 2013 and I was in the CB.
ReplyDeleteYou where reading the nianticproject.com in November 2012. OK, but where are you going with this? I've read most of that and could not find it talking about Klue S. being on the enlightened team at any point. Was this where you where going with this? Or was there another point?
I'm just trying to get to the bottom of all this I've been very non biased on this topic and have looked up every lead you have given me. But I can not find what is not there.
Ingress has two team's each team is lead by their mascot. The resistance has ADA and the enlightened has the shapers. On top of this both teams also have a lead investigator. The resistance has Klue S. and the enlightened has Hank Johnson. This all gives fair game play for both teams.
Alot of us were part of the Closed beta mate. but that doesn't mean we all paid attention to the story the way we should. Take back the story from the day one with all the intel released and leaked and see if you didn't missed some bits on the way.You will definitely enjoy the readings and i can tell you is not gonna be a loss of time .
ReplyDeleteRobertt Bertton I don't think you understand what David C Cardillo and I are talking about. David C Cardillo is try to prove that Klue S. started off as an enlightened agent then changed to resistance.
ReplyDeleteBut I can not find one place that she had an enlightened view. I posted one of her first on-line videos where she talks about how she thinks the Shapers attacked us. That would be a resistance point of view. So, David and I are looking for facts to back up his point of view. I can't find anything to back up David's argument.
So not everyone paying attention to the story line does not matter. As for the CB both my self and David pointed to how long we where here for. But it does not matter both teams have a lead investigator. Klue S. for the blue team and Hank Johnson that's the way it is.
#ShartGame #Calvinball #WhaleFaction
ReplyDeleteThat is not what he said in Pasadena. Who is misquoting him and why?
ReplyDelete".... I’d suspect that this is just the beginning of something much bigger."
ReplyDeleteThe beginning of something, or just the end of a game ?
Its all just a little creepy if you ask me.
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